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Chaos to Calm: Behavior Strategies for Parents with Takema James Carrion

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In this episode of the Mom Owned and Operated podcast, Rita Suzanne talks to Takema James Carrion all about how she is raising a family, running a business and remembering herself.

Takema James Carrion is a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA). That’s the long version for she has put a lot of hours into what she does. She has also the founder and CEO of Changing Trends Behavior Consulting, a company she created to provide personalized behavioral coaching and therapy services that create a lasting impact using evidence based practices.

Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) is a science that aims to improve outcomes that are most significant to you. Takema uses ABA to provide behavioral support for families that may need that extra boost of assistance to change behaviors and relationships within their family unit.

ABA has many applications and she likes to mix things up so you can implement it into your everyday routine to produce the change you want to see.

After working in the field for 10+ years, Takema believes that a holistic and collaborative approach yields the best results, if you’re willing to put in the work.

You are the expert for your loved one and she is the ABA expert. Connect with Takema to work together to bring change that is meaningful to you!

Free 30 minute consultation when you call Takema at (407) 956-5126

Apply to work with Rita at ritasuzanne.com/apply/

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SPEAKERS
Rita Suzanne, Takema James Carrion

Rita Suzanne
Welcome to the Mom Owned and Operated podcast, the podcast about moms and for moms, where we have candid conversations about running a business, raising a family, and remembering ourselves. I’m your host, Rita Suzanne, a single mom of four, digital strategist, and provider of no nonsense business strategies and tactics. Hi, this is Mom Owned and Operated. I’m Rita Suzanne. And today I have my friend Takema with me. And I’m so grateful that you joined us today Takema, please tell us a little bit about you, your family and your business.

Takema James Carrion
Well, thank you so much for having me. Hello, everybody. My name is Takema. And I am a business owner of a company called Changing Trends Behavior Consultant, I provide behavioral support for families. I am a board certified behavior analyst. And I provide possiamo personalized coaching and consultation for parents who are looking for additional help for children, and just need some some extra support, you know, for any problem behaviors that they have in the home, or just teaching the children new skills. I definitely someone that could reach out to I am now a new mum to a six month old baby. My husband and I are very excited, and very sleep deprived. But it’s been a beautifully challenging journey.

Rita Suzanne
I can’t imagine So how long have you been in business?

Takema James Carrion
I’ve been in business for the last four years. Okay.

Rita Suzanne
And then before you had your business, what

Takema James Carrion
did you do? Before I had my business, I was still doing the same. In the same profession. I just was working for another company. And so it’s just been interesting, just kind of like moving along the journey of you know, being with someone else’s business and their model. Still doing the same thing. But doing I’m doing the same thing now, but my way.

Rita Suzanne
So what would you say has been like the the biggest challenge that you’ve had starting up your own business? Because you know, working for somebody else is so different than working for yourself.

Takema James Carrion
Absolutely. The biggest challenge I think was even as basic as how do you start one? You have to incorporate yourself, right? You have to pay for fees, a business license, where do I go to pay for the license is just, I mean, even just the structure, the foundation of establishing one was challenging. It took me forever to come up with a name. That’s, you know, I mean, just just the foundation of creating a business right was super hard. And then on top of that, then comes the gaining clients, you know, so it was just one thing after the next but it was challenging. When you when you’re doing it from scratch, and you you don’t know anybody that’s doing it, and you’re trying to figure out all on your own, everything is a challenge.

Rita Suzanne
Yeah. I mean, I’ve what I found when I started my business, that was the hardest thing was the like, cuz I think that when you’re working for somebody else, you just have to do your job, right? You don’t have to worry about that getting of the clients and the marketing and the networking, and all of these things. And I feel like that’s the hardest part of it. It’s not like keeping my stuff in Freshbooks. And you know, like figuring that stuff out. It’s, yeah, it’s the consistency of marketing and networking, that is the hardest because you still have to serve your clients. But you still have to do these other things at the same time. And so it’s interesting that you said like, that was your hardest thing, because now I’m changing my focus to focus more on like business foundations and teaching people how to, to really structure and set up their business for success, you know, so it’s so needed, I think, especially for us women.

Takema James Carrion
And for new entrepreneurs, I think the foundation to me, is so crucial because I’ve seen other people’s businesses and and don’t get me wrong, having a business is a lot of work and you don’t really want to judge the way other people do stuff. But at the same time you see how people do stuff. And you’re like, I would do it different, you know, you could see sometimes in in different companies how the foundation just has cracks. Yeah. If you don’t have a solid flow with systems, you can’t simply trying to catch up, because you don’t have a great process established from the beginning. And to me, I was very, like adamant about trying to be as streamlined as possible from the beginning. So I’m trying to figure out what to do at all times, you know, and trying to catch up, catch up. And so I think what you’re doing is so needed for new entrepreneurs. Absolutely.

Rita Suzanne
Well, yeah, I think it’s important to because systems like and like you said, to do it from the beginning, and a lot of people, they don’t do it from the beginning, they wait until things start to get busy. And then it’s like this, you know, ball of anxiety that they have to deal with, because they’re trying to constantly catch up. And so if you set everything up from the beginning, like for success, then I think that that’s going to be beneficial in the long term, when you start getting all these clients, and, you know, and making money, and it’s not hard to set up your systems, and that’s pretty, but a lot of people, they don’t know what, where to start, you know, right.

Takema James Carrion
And it also like a trial and error too, right? Because you use public key, you use certain product, so you use certain, you know, apps, you know, and figure out, this doesn’t really fit well, please, yeah, I need something else they need, you know, and I mean, you always constantly looking for something that’s going to fit you.

Rita Suzanne
right? And trying? Oh, yeah, asking everybody which project management thing is, and then switching zactly. And they go whole day

Takema James Carrion
with software and this and, you know, so it’s also trying to find something that’s going to fit what you do and feeling like to do stuff. And, you know, so it’s, it’s a bit challenging in that sense to, but it’s so important to do it from the beginning.

Rita Suzanne
Yeah, I like that you said that you recognize that there are things that other people do that you don’t want to incorporate into your business. Because I think a lot of people, what they do is they look at everybody else. And they’re like I want to be I want to do what they’re doing, I want it to be like this. And and really what I do is I try to keep like seriously like blinders on. And don’t even look at anybody else. Because I will get distracted. And I’m just like, Oh, that’s a great idea room. And here, I go into something else. You know, so I think like, like you said, like really recognizing what you don’t want is really important. And just focusing on what you do want and not not looking at everybody else. Because it’s so easy to see what you think is success, right? And then say, Oh, I need to do this, when you don’t even know if it’s successful for them.

Takema James Carrion
you don’t really know, you know, and sometimes it might look a lot better than it actually is. And it’s, it could be a bit deceiving, you know, at times. And especially in the beginning, when you start another business, you, you look at other people and you’re like, I want that, you know, but I have to, you have to work to get to that space. And they didn’t just become what they became overnight either. Right? So it’s it can be really difficult wanting to be there already, you know, but it takes time,

Rita Suzanne
it does take time. And I think that’s the most important lesson because, you know, we want to jump in and show everybody like, Look, I can do this, I can do it all by myself. But if you’re mimicking somebody else, like, it’s, you’re not going to be successful, because it’s really not your thing, right, you’re mimicking them, and it’s gonna feel inauthentic. And people aren’t gonna like that at all.

Takema James Carrion
People, people could kind of pick up your vibe to re o and if something is not truly in alignment with what you are, who you are, you know, then it’s not going to come off as Yeah, as authentic, you know, as you want to be. And there’s not always be like this disconnect. And you’re not going to find the clients that you really want to find. Because there’s just something that’s just not right. You know, you’re trying to push something that you’re not really wanting to do, or who you really are, you know,

Rita Suzanne
so I’ve had this website course thing in like in my to do list, oh, I’m gonna teach people how to make their own website, it’s gonna be so great. I kid you not to Kima one year, it’s been sitting in my queue. And I’ve just realized the reason why I refuse to do it is because I just don’t feel that you know, like, connected or energetic with it. Like I just don’t, it’s just like I’m procrastinating because it’s not a good fit for me. You know, and I don’t want that long term like commitment of updating this thing that I’m not excited about. Yeah. So

Takema James Carrion
well, and especially with stuff like that. It’s like what is it Wanting to take your energy. And even like, you know, just talking about being a parent, you don’t have as much time like time is different. And if you are not passionate or interested, and onx what it is, then it’s just going to drag you down. And you don’t have time to waste some stuff. There’s not really, you know, what your interest? Oh,

Rita Suzanne
so speaking of that, being a parent, because I find it super challenging. I’m so jealous of my friends that don’t have kids, right? Like, I feel like they and not to I love my kids don’t get me wrong. Yeah, but I’m saying I’m jealous of the entrepreneur friends, because it feels like, they can get so much more done than I can, right. And I feel like Oh, I’m so like, they can do all these things. They don’t have to get up at this time and do all these things. And, and I wouldn’t say jealous, I’m envious, that, you know, of that, of that aspect of their life. That my kids, but I know, I know. He knows like, yeah, you know, so now that you have your daughter, and how has your business changed? Like, what have you what, like, what’s the average day look like now?

Takema James Carrion
Well, I mean, it’s changed a lot. Because, you know, like, you were saying, I was that person not too long ago, because she’s, you know, she has been in existence, right? I was that friend, right was able to do so much. And it, it almost was like, not not prepared for that major shift. You know, I knew it was going to be a big shift. But I almost felt like, I should have done more before she came. It was almost like, feeling like, wait, I didn’t prepare enough. I didn’t prepare enough. I didn’t stay up long enough. I didn’t do all this extra stuff in advance, you know. And so I understand my sentiment, because now I’m like, you know, I have friends I know who are doing stuff. And I’m like telling them listen, you need to be doing more. I don’t have time. We mean, you don’t have time. I don’t have

Rita Suzanne
Oh, you mean friends without children? Yeah. And you’re like, you should you could get way more done than I can

Takema James Carrion
wait for done. Exactly. So now, like my day is a lot different. Because I have to I’m also, you know, taking care of hos so it’s definitely been a mix of having off and on time, you know, doing stuff late at night, not sleeping, you know, having to sacrifice sleep to have a long time, you know, some extra stuff dies, right? Yeah. And it’s just been having to compromise on certain things. But that’s the only way right now, especially living in this time, is even more challenging to get stuff done. But you know, a, I can get as much done as I used to. And I have to be okay with that.

Rita Suzanne
Yeah. Have you found that sometimes, like when you do those chunks? I mean, because everybody does, like we all do that, like, I’m gonna focus for two hours on this, and then I spend time with my kids, and then come back to it. Do you find that if you put a restriction on your time limits, because some people say that if they restrict themselves to certain time, then they actually feel like they get more done during those restrictive times? Personally, I don’t because I get interrupted about 1000 times by my kids, but I can see why someone would say that they’re able to focus more.

Takema James Carrion
I think it depends on the day, because the same method is not. it doesn’t work. Like what’s the one to use? So I think it depends on the day, and it depends on the task, because I did at one point, so Okay, well, I’m going to be at time block person, and this isn’t going to do but I find like it doesn’t it’s not effective every single time, you know, and so what sometimes I will do like a time block or like, Okay, this is my time period, I’m just going to get as much stuff done whatever is done in that period and see at the end, okay, it did a good amount or Okay, get a much done. And then other times, I’ll put like a time limit and say, Okay, I have this task. I’m going to try to complete it in 50 minutes, or 20 minutes, and then if the timer goes beyond that point, that’s okay. But at least I’m trying to clock myself just to see how efficient I could be. Doing something one particular task and complete than that? Yeah.

Rita Suzanne
yeah, it’s a lot. And so the the parents that you’re working with, are they like with? Are the kids within a certain age range? Or do they have special challenges that you’re trying to help the parents with? Because

Takema James Carrion
it’s a variety. So I mean, in my career, I have worked with families that do have children with special needs. And also, you know, children don’t have a diagnosis at all, though, what I do they have analysis definitely is known very well known in some communities for being a therapist use for individuals, I’ve been diagnosed with autism. However, it’s not just for that, kind of become very well known for that. But you know, behavior is behavior, people engage in behavior every day, adult children, so it’s applicable to any ages to any situation. It’s not only something for problem behavior, it’s something if you want to increase a skill that you don’t have, you want to increase, even like what we talked about time management, right time, you can see things like that. You can apply behavioral skills and strategies to increase behaviors you want to see or decrease ones that are not, you know, being as useful to you. So yeah, I work with parents with all all ages. And yeah, just providing, you know, customized and personalized support based on what the needs are.

Rita Suzanne
Yeah, I love that. Because, you know, a lot of times we think it has to be the negative, you know, the negative effects. But I bought my kids this book that teaches them how to be like an entrepreneur, how to make a million dollars from this dollar, right? And I told them, if you read this book, I’ll give you $50 just read it all, you know, right? Explain it to me in depth, right? You know, because they’re kids, they’re gonna try it as I read it. No, you didn’t. But what it did was one of my nieces actually read it. And she, she didn’t finish it. But as she was reading it, she started implementing one of the things she was like, Okay, I’m going to become a dog walker. So she does like mapping everything out. She went on her first day, got some clients and made herself $50 in one day, which encouraged the other kids, you know, they’re like, Oh, yeah, they’re like, what can I do? And the same one, she after we moved, she turned around and started making homemade lip glosses. Right? So she does, like I need to, you know, she, like she wanted to do something else to make money. And so instead of coming and asking me, can I have money, she decided that she was getting, I was like, Oh, my gosh, I just love this, the entrepreneurial spirit in this one, you know, it’s so amazing.

Takema James Carrion
And you were implementing behavior strategies without even really realizing or specifically knowing, but you had a target, which was for them to read the entire book. And at the end of that there was a reward. Right? And so that, you know, scenarios like that, or what I talked to parents about is that you can do that. But what happens a lot of times is then, you know, let’s just say, let’s just say the book had five chapters, right? And sometimes where a parent might give that same thing, I want you to read the book. And at the end, you can have the $50. Maybe a child might read one chapter, and then they still get the $50. And it’s like, no, that’s where we would intervene. And I’m coaching parents and talking to changes. Because if you want your child to read more books, that’s your overall long term grade, right? You have the short term, the short term goals in between, read this book, read that book and these words attached to it, then you have to follow through with that. And that’s where I come in. And I’m kind of helping parents see what they’re doing. Because sometimes they’re not getting the outcome that they want. And I’m like, well, not because you can’t is because you have to change what you’re doing. Because if I can, if your child can read one chapter and get the $50 Why would I read the whole book? I’m with you, right? I’m going to do it. Oh, hi. And so that’s kind of where I’m coming in to help parents see what they need to change so that they can have their kids do skills that they want them to do like reading, you know, reading is a skill increase this something you would want to see more of, you know, oh, yeah,

Rita Suzanne
I’d like to see less video games and more reading.

Takema James Carrion
And we would come up with a plan for that, like how many games that are playing on a daily basis, okay. Implementing like a time schedule. They have to get to play for X amount of time they get to choose when they get Do it. But if they decide if you decide, they get to have an hour and a half of video games, or they let’s just say, if they choose to do that in the morning time, well, you’ve already used up your thing. That’s up to them. Right. And it also depends on the ages too, you know, because when you have a five is different, have a child that’s 12, when they’re 12, they should be a lot more involved in decision making, because they’re at that age where they’re coming into themselves, that kind of figuring out who they are. So

Rita Suzanne
like, right up to my 12 year old, he’d be playing video games all day. Exactly, I have a I have time limits on the games, like I would take away everybody’s devices at 830. And, and I don’t even let them keep them. And I nope every device needs to come in my room, like because they’re so sneaky. And then in the mornings, you know, non school days when they have to, or even even school days, they have to do certain things before they can even get their devices. Yes, great. So I feel like it lays a foundation, but then they go to their dad’s house, and he just lets him get up and stay up. And I’m like, I feel like the bad guy. Why am I the bad guy all the time?

Takema James Carrion
Do you do children need rules, you know, as much as it might feel like, Oh my gosh, you know, it’s like, the structure is great. And it’s so necessary. So whatever you’re doing is great. And, and children learn to adapt, right? And they know what they can do with who they could do it with. And where they can do it.

Rita Suzanne
I say, I think my so my 12 year old, he’s like, you know, he’ll be so excited to go over to his dad’s and like, during the summer, they’ll stay there for a little while. And he’ll say, you know that he missed me. He wants to come home. And then he’s like, I’m so tired, because he stays up all night, you know. And so I think that he does want the structure but only, you know, a little bit. Yeah, yeah, he still wants to try to just do nothing but video games, but, you know, then I’m like, let’s go on a bike ride, you know, and I make them He’s like, No, I don’t want to I don’t care. Let’s go, you know,

Takema James Carrion
so who you have to, especially this generation is so like crazy that they have so much more access to technology that we did not have I did not have you know, it didn’t exist, you know, social media did not exist phones, what is the you know,

Rita Suzanne
right? Like, yeah, I mean, we in the wall, like, you know, share with our siblings,

Takema James Carrion
back, please. So you push in to be outside, that’s not something that a lot of kids do naturally know, because they have so much stuff available, em to keep them inside, you know, so that’s good.

Rita Suzanne
Luckily, My kids love to go outside and play with neighborhood kids, you know, and ride their bikes and everything. But, you know, like you said, but when we lived in the last place, it wasn’t as much I think it’s just because of where our neighborhood is very kid. friendly. But yeah, I love I love all of these these ideas and strategies, and I’m glad that it’s focusing more I’m positive. I mean, not always, but you know,

Takema James Carrion
yeah. Yeah, definitely. And, you know, sometimes you have to implement stuff where there’s like restrictions or, you know, because something happened, you know, a behavior that maybe that’s like an undesired behavior, that maybe, that there’s something that’s paired with it, that’s maybe not so favorable. Well, people have to also remember is that like, you know, with a, any behavior, whatever is a positive may have a negative one, there’s a consequence associated with anything that you do. And in behavior analysis, for us consequence means what happens after the behavior, traditionally, when people hear consequence, they think of something really bad. Yeah, suffer the consequences, you know, and for us, it’s not that it’s just like, okay, the child did this, what happened afterward? And usually what happens after is what we come in and, and change so that the behavior itself changes. Right, right. You know, so similarly, like, back to the example of the reading the book, if the child reads one chapter, they get the $50. Or if a child reads the whole book and gets the $50, right, what happens after is the consequence and change that so versus, you know, where a parent would give the 15 for the one chapter, that we would change that and say, No, you could give you could give him 10. Right. Instead, why is he important? Right, exactly. So we would change something so, you know, yes, the reading one chapter is undesired, but you can always work on that slowly, slowly. So that’s what we do.

Rita Suzanne
Now. I’m like you do it all or nothing, you finish up.

Takema James Carrion
Exactly. You can do that too. And that’s another step. You know,

Rita Suzanne
I just feel like I’m kind of I’m kind of strict, but you know, I just have high expectations for my kids, and, you know, I want them to succeed. And I feel like a lot of parents, you know, they are afraid to discipline their kids or like to, or, you know, they and they don’t want to, like, you don’t have to abuse them. I’m just, you know, taking stuff away from them, you know?

Takema James Carrion
Exactly. And I see it all the time. I see all the time, and I see the struggle. I see the, oh, I don’t want to and it’s just like, that

Rita Suzanne
makes them uncomfortable. I think like, you know, like,

Takema James Carrion
I know, you Yeah, discomfort is necessary, you know, a child is not, we are not meant to be happy and pleased at all times. You know, we are meant to grow and change. And we have to have lessons and we have to teach them different things. Because if not, then the behavior is just going to stay the same and

Rita Suzanne
a lot worse. I’ve seen it somewhere. I just Oh,

Takema James Carrion
really, really. And I tell parents all the time. I said, Listen, when they’re five, you might be okay, still dealing with that. But that five year old is going to become a 15 year old, right? And it’s not cute when they’re 15

Rita Suzanne
Oh, believe me, I have to nip mine in the bud all the time. Because, you know, they’re, they’re at their preteen. And one’s a teen age where they try to push the limitations and the boundaries. And I say, you know what, I don’t really care, but you’re not going to disrespect me, you know, like, I’m the one doing all the stuff for you. So I don’t care if you get upset. And you know, but I’m, you’re not going to disrespect me in the process of you being upset. And, you know, so my kids are pretty, you know, their kids, but Well, yeah, everybody knows they’re good.

Takema James Carrion
That’s good. And they’re well mannered. But they’re also children where they’re pushing boundaries and rules. And children are supposed to do that. Because they’re playing them they’re learning. And then also, as the adults Our job is to shape. Right. So yes, they’re going to maybe talk back or like push and question, as they should you know, what, each of them how to do it respectfully. Yeah, sure you question it. Sure. You could be upset. How do you get upset though? Okay. It’s like what I said, How do you tell me that, you know,

Rita Suzanne
without pushing the boundaries are making it hard

Takema James Carrion
exactly, you know, you know, oh, that’s really what, you know, I want parents to know, anybody listens. And only if you feel like you’re struggling, you shouldn’t be a struggle, right, you know, even like, it’s a struggle, then you might need some help. Yeah,

Rita Suzanne
I think it’s a great idea. Because, you know, I think that a lot of parents need that, that push and that confirmation, because I have friends who have kids, and and I’ll say to them, you know, no, you’re not to do this, you have to do that, or else it’s gonna get worse, you know, and, you know, have helped them to understand, like, why they need that assistance. You know, I love everything you’re doing. Thank, you know, let’s get into our last little bit here. And so mom owned and operated is about, you know, raising our families running a business but also remembering yourself and as a new mom, how are you remembering yourself? Like, what are you doing? Are you

Takema James Carrion
Oh, boy am I doing to take care of myself, I am remembering that I need to take care of myself, to be honest. It’s just, you know, new, new motherhood is just kind of been going through this, like a fog, like a phase just happened to me. Right? You know, and so I’m really kind of paying attention to how I’m feeling and that in itself is taking care of myself. Because, you know, if I feel like I just need a minute, then I say that I need a minute. I’m very intentional about even just like my, you know, in the morning, like when I get up. I’m just doing like my skincare routine. And being diligent about bed that makes me feel good. And that’s been I’ve been doing like trying to have that dedicated little time to myself just to take care of myself, you know, um, so just little things like that I’ve been doing, I’m drinking my tea, which makes me feel good, you know, so I don’t get to do self care for long periods of time. But whatever time I have, I tried to really just send them myself and just really enjoy what I’m doing for that period of time.

Rita Suzanne
I think that’s great. Because, you know, I even say like, sometimes I just need a minute, and I’ll lock all my kids out of my room. And I’m just like, you know, like, just leave me. And I get back to you when I you know, but I can leave them alone, I can do you know, like, I can have a job have a long way to go. Right, right. But I think that I think that just remembering yourself, you know, like remembering, like you said, taking a moment and even doing that little bit of taking care of yourself. Because I know that once when my kids were younger, I really didn’t even do that, you know, it was really, and I think it’s hard for a lot of moms to even think about themselves, because they’re so focused on their baby, which I understand, but you still have to take care of yourself.

Takema James Carrion
You do. And I recognize that. And I said that even before, you know, I was like, um, I don’t want to lose myself in her. But I am completely in love, you know, but at the same time, I could see just how they could just suck everything out that you if you let them right. I could just like wow, like, I mean, just as simple as, you know, she’s hungry, she’s crying. And then I realized I haven’t had anything to drink all day, right? When did I have something to drink, but she’s had like, five bottles already. And I have, you know, just like, when you look at that, it’s just like, what did I have a snack? Like, when did I you know, but she’s fine. And she’s fit.

Rita Suzanne
Right? And, and but you can do both? Right? It’s like you can do just don’t even think about yourself.

Takema James Carrion
You don’t. And I’m like, no. So I’m like, intentional, like just trying to just simple changes, you know, like when I give when I feed her, I make sure I get a drink at the same time. You know, I’m like doing both at the same time to ensure like, I’m, I’m also taking care of myself, because I would always without drinking and I’m like, .

Rita Suzanne
why do I have a headache? Why am I in a good scene? Like, what did I do?

Takema James Carrion
But she is taken care of? And I’m like, I can’t like she is I have to be somewhat functional?

Rita Suzanne
I mean, because if you’re not feeling well, then you know, how can you take care of them at your best?

Takema James Carrion
Right. Exactly. Exactly. So just not losing myself. I mean, you know you do to a degree, but I don’t want to not recognize myself, you know, I’m trying to be very mindful of that, to still recognize who I am and not be somebody completely different. I know, you know, you change as you become up. But I don’t want

Rita Suzanne
that’s not just who you are. That’s not the only identity that you have. You are still you even though you’re a mom at the same time, huh? Yeah. Yeah. I think it’s like, you know, I have one client and I told her she had some pictures of her and her baby and I said, Oh, I use this one with you and the baby. But I just use this one of just you because you are more than just a mom, then just

Takema James Carrion
right. You know, it is it is a new identity. And I’m grateful for that new identity. You know, do I do want to still remember what I enjoyed, you know what I like? and not lose and not lose that because

Rita Suzanne
she’s going you don’t want to be in the car like singing her songs and like current music because yeah, we’re involved in the kid mega Exactly, and I’m like watching all these like Nickelodeon shows. I haven’t watched a real movie. I’m forever.

Takema James Carrion
Exactly, I trying to figure make sure I’m doing for me, you know?

Rita Suzanne
Yeah, absolutely. Okay, so where can everybody find you online?

Takema James Carrion
Well, um, if anybody’s interested, they could go to my website, which is www dot changing trends, that org and also on Instagram at changing trends, that LLC. So those are the two places you could find me. And yeah, I people are free to on the website. I have an email if anybody wants to send an email or call. And I’ll be willing to talk to you and see if I could help.

Rita Suzanne
Yay. Thank you so much Takema for taking the time and chatting with everybody.

Takema James Carrion
So welcome. Thank you for having me.

Rita Suzanne
And there you have it. I want to encourage you to remember that being a mom who runs her own business is not easy. we all struggle but just keep moving forward. And don’t forget to make time for yourself. As moms we are usually the first thing to go to the bottom of the list. If your business is overwhelming you and you need real solutions, not just some sugar coated suggestions apply to work with me at ritasuzanne.com/apply

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