The Power of PR Parenting with Marjie Hadad

SPEAKERS

Rita Suzanne, Marjie Hadad

Rita Suzanne 00:01

Welcome to the Mom Owned and Operated Podcast, the podcast about moms and for moms, where we have candid conversations about running a business, raising a family, and remembering ourselves. I’m your host, Rita Suzanne, a single mom of four, digital strategist and provider of no nonsense business strategies and tactics.

Hi, this is Mom Owned and Operated. I’m Rita, suzanne, and today I have my guest Marjie with me. Marjie, I’m so excited to chat with you today about all the things PR, motherhood, parenting, all of the things. Please tell everyone, all about you, your business and your family.

Marjie Hadad: 0:47

Well, that’s a lot of questions in 10 seconds flat. It’s wonderful to be with you, rita, suzanne, and, like you said, my name is Marje Haddad and I have been in global public relations for 30 years for moms who own businesses. I’ve been a professional for 40 years and I’ve owned two businesses. One was the public relations firm that I have, and I still have, because I have a specialty in medical PR. So I work with startup companies in the medical device industry, and one of the reasons why I love that is because the people that I work with are some of the best and brightest in the world and they’re creating things to help people worldwide. It cuts across political lines, it cuts across every kind of division and it’s something that everybody in the world can benefit if they have that particular medical issue, and I just love being able to help people that way. So that’s one thing.

Marjie Hadad: 1:51

The other business that I recently started is PR for Life, and that is based on a book that came out a year ago that I have written, called the Power of PR Parenting, and that is a 25-year retrospective of how I raised my three kids in concert with my husband, and the successes and the hiccups. But what makes it different is that it’s how I use my public relations superpowers, my skills, strategies, tactics, all that stuff that we use at the office every single day with our clients. I brought all that stuff at home and instead of wearing different hats, like we’re told to wear your work hat, wear your mom hat, wear your wife hat, wear your sister hat, et cetera, et cetera I said I don’t have time for this. I’m going to wear one hat and I’m going to bring my full self to whatever I do, and hopefully, who’s ever in my company can benefit from whatever skill sets I can contribute. And so that’s what’s in the book.

Marjie Hadad: 2:57

It’s personal stories, it’s professional stories, and then it’s how you can do the same using your professional skills. The same using your professional skills, including your PR skills. And don’t tell me you don’t have them, because you do, because if you communicate with anybody during the day, you have PR skills. You choose your words, you choose your tone, you choose your delivery in order to share a key message, to achieve a goal, even if it is pass the mustard, please, or you’re trying to get your dry cleaning done on rush, as opposed to five days from now or something huge and everything in between. So that’s kind of what I’m doing spreading the PR parenting love, if you will through speaking engagements worldwide.

Rita Suzanne: 3:57

I love it, and so obviously, your children are grown now, but we’re going to reference some stories about you know how you were able to, you know, juggle your business and in parenting at the same time when they were at home, because I feel like that’s probably the harder part of running a business and raising a family is when they’re at home and they’re asking for all the things in front of you. So let’s talk a little bit about how you use PR in your parenting. Like, can you give us an example of of something, how, so that we can kind of make it a little bit more relatable to our daily?

Marjie Hadad: 4:44

All right For the ones who have children in elementary school, and this is also applicable to anyone who has older kids, because this is something that, once you exercise, this approach or strategy, you can use this continuously in whatever interaction you have. When you’re giving your opinion on something. All right, in the first grade, two things happen that are natural. What are they? Academically and biologically, you want to take a guess? No, okay. So academically, in first grade, this is when the kids learn sentence, construction, subject, verb, direct object, et cetera, whatever. Biologically, it’s when the kids start to lose their baby teeth. Now, this one you’re going to know the answer to. What do you do when your child loses their baby tooth?

Rita Suzanne: 5:51

A lot of moms.

Marjie Hadad: 5:52

Save them right save them or they put them under their pillow right, do the tooth and then, exactly, there’s a tooth fairy visit, and may I say that the tooth fairy is international and delivers and exchanges teeth for presents all over the world. Very busy woman so, and she has lots of kids. So what we did at home I did this with my husband and it was kind of fun was we introduced the concept of combining the academic right of passage at school with the biological right of passage traditional right of passage of losing your teeth, with the biological rite of passage traditional rite of passage of losing your teeth and the tooth fairy thing. And by combining them, we asked our children to write a letter to the tooth fairy. We turned this into a writing assignment and it was a very natural thing because we said look, the tooth fairy is very busy. If you want to make sure she stops and gives you what she wants, you should probably tell her and write her a request letter like a proper one, right and be polite. And that made sense to my kids. So they said, yeah, okay, Now they’re in first grade, they don’t have to write a novel Couple of lines and then they sign their name and they have complete control over this exercise.

Marjie Hadad: 7:18

You just stand to the side doing whatever you’re doing no hovering. And if they say, hey, mom, how do you spell this, or what do you think about that, or how do I write this? So you help them think about that, or how do I write this? So you help them when they’re done, then you explain to them that you know you do a lot of writing in your job and you always ask someone to have a look at it, just as a second pair of eyes, to make sure to see if there’s anything different that could be done. You know that’s very standard practice and I say I said, or my husband would say, is it okay if we have a look? You know, cause this is what we do and they usually say, yeah, sure, have a look. Ask them to choose a pen, but not red, because red is. This is a mistake, this is awful. It doesn’t feel good to look at a red mark on a paper. I know until this day and I’m not 20 years old anymore whenever I see something marked up in red it still upsets me. So I ask my kids to choose a pretty pastel color, so it’s their choice again, and then, if I see something I want to fix, say you know, this is a really great first draft. Can I show you another way to do this? Now it’s another way. We didn’t criticize, we didn’t identify anything wrong. We’re just going to show them another way to do the same thing. Right. Find anything wrong. We’re just going to show them another way to do the same thing, right. And by the end of your edit, as you’re showing them alternative ways to do stuff in the paper, you might have a very pretty colored paper and they are learning. You are guiding rather than criticizing, and then, at the end of the exercise, ask them to rewrite the paper for the tooth fairy so that it’s nice and clean and she can understand it without all the colored edits. And then that’s what goes under the pillow with the tooth and that’s what the exchange is made with.

Marjie Hadad: 9:25

Now, four things in terms of benefits. Number one they practice their writing. Number two they practice their sentence construction. So handwriting, sentence construction. They learn how to advocate for themselves, right, Because they’re telling the tooth fairy what they want, and that’s a skill that they’re going to need for the rest of their lives. Whether it’s applying for a job, for university, for a scholarship, whatever it is that they need, there’s going to be an application and they’re going to have to advocate for themselves. So this is say 101, course kiddie, course 101 on how to advocate for yourself.

Marjie Hadad: 10:22

And number four they identify you through this process as a safe place to go for feedback when they’re playing their sports and say well, what do you think? They know that, no matter what they do, they’re going to hear well, this is one way to do it. Here’s another. Or great job, Great, First try, what would you do differently next time? So there’s never criticism. It’s always guidance and recommendations for improvement. And I can tell you that this works because my kids and they’re in their 20s today A little bit of a spoiler alert from the book, but my daughter, my older daughter, is in medical school and to this day, when she’s writing books, an advocation letter for herself, you know she’s looking to do something.

Marjie Hadad: 11:13

She’ll run the letter by me just to see if I have an alternative way of wording something Not better or worse, just another way of looking at it. And I always say you do what you want to do. This is your letter. But if this were me, this is what I would do. So this continues on.

Marjie Hadad: 11:30

And this was the kind of interaction we had over the years to inspire confidence and resilience. If you notice, even in this Tooth Fairy example Tooth Fairy letter example they already developed resilience because they wrote the letter twice, Right, Right. They developed confidence because they saw okay, I just improved my letter, I got a great letter. Now I bet I’m going to get what I want for the tooth fairy All right, Success. So, yes, confidence plus resilience equals success. It can be on very basic levels and it can be on huge levels, Like when you grow up and you’re a mom and now you got your own kids and you’re running a business and there’s nothing easy about running a business Right, and client service and all that kind of thing and you get a lot of no’s. So how do you keep up with it if you’re getting all these no’s? In terms of resilience and the short of it is public relations wise is you make it into a game and you have some fun with it.

Rita Suzanne: 12:47

I love that. I think that that’s an important. I love the whole idea of that. One because, two, you get to keep the letter too right. You get to keep that experience. That’s a little keepsake that you get to take away how they progress and they have grown and how they’ve continued to be able to advocate for themselves and ask for what they want. I think that oftentimes what I see is that a lot of women give up advocating for themselves. Their confidence starts to wane and they will stop asking for what they want. Instead, they will seek out validation from someone else to kind of push them along the way.

Marjie Hadad: 13:39

What I want to say to that, for all the moms that are listening out there, don’t wait until you’re 50 years old to not take crap from anybody. Until you’re 50 years old to not take crap from anybody. You know what you’re doing. Even if you don’t feel like it, I promise you you’ve got it. Everybody around you knows that. You have it and you need to set your boundaries for what’s acceptable to you and what’s not acceptable to you. And in your communication you need to share that Like you own the place, because if you give off positioning and you know, there’s reality and there’s perception. So even if you’re a little nervous about it with the perception, you just give off a perception like you run the show. You own the place. You’re calling the shots and with this confidence that you are exuding, the people around you will respond. And again, don’t wait until you’re 50 years old to hold ground.

Rita Suzanne: 14:54

I know I hate that thing. I was like, oh, once you hit 40, then you’re not, you’re in your like give no fucks era. But I feel like you know you should, you know, start standing up for yourself a lot sooner. And you know I, you know we’re all learning as we’re going through life and our experiences shape us to be who we are and how we respond to certain things, and so I get that. I just think that sometimes we just need somebody to just push us and say you know what, just get out there and do it.

Marjie Hadad: 15:25

Just get out there and do it, and I mean respectfully kind with kindness, respectfully kind with kindness. But my kids, I see them exercising exactly what I’m describing and they’re in their early 20s. You know you have to play the game. You have to be kind, you need to be respectful, you need to be polished and you want to do so in a way that your message will be received as intended by I’m going I’m using pr terms again your target market, whoever that might be, whether it’s a client, whether it’s a partner, it’s an associate, it’s a kid, it’s a boss, whoever it is your husband, your partner, whoever it is in your life that you are communicating with, do so with full confidence, even if you don’t feel so confident about it.

Marjie Hadad: 16:20

There’s an old antiperspirant commercial from back, I think in the 1970s. I’m dating myself again. It was a soft and dry commercial. You might yeah, I’m looking, I’m looking at your face and you’re like I’m not sure if I know this one. It was soft and dry will help hide when you’re nervous inside. And the advertising line was never let them see you sweat. And the scenarios were always of somebody who was really, really nervous, but then they walked in really confident. Never let them see you sweat.

Marjie Hadad: 16:57

I had no idea what I was going to say and I would be in a packed room and they would turn to me because I was the PR expert and they’d say well, what do you think? And I’m like they want to know what I think. Do I even know what I think? You know, little old me like you really want my opinion, you know. So, inside I was completely not confident and very, very nervous and even in shock, and but on the perception, what I exuded was one of authority. So whatever came out of my mouth during those times which I can honestly tell you I don’t remember, but I do remember the response, and the response was oh, okay, this is a good idea. Yes, I agree with her. And I was like, oh gosh, amen.

Rita Suzanne: 18:00

But it’s the it’s the more that you do it right and the more confident you get, the more and the more comfortable you become in the situations. And I think that also by putting our kids in situations where maybe they’re not so comfortable, it can also help build their confidence. And I’ll use one of my kids as an example. Well, two of them are very, very shy, and so whenever we would go out to eat, I would make them all order the food and and at first the two who were very shy, it was like pulling teeth, but I’m just like no, you have to say what you want. And now I will tell you that they are very confident ordering their food and speaking. They’ve become way more confident speaking and you know social situations in general because of me kind of putting that spotlight on them and making them do things that they didn’t want to do.

Marjie Hadad: 19:02

I agree that we need to challenge our children so that they can come out of their shells and discover their superpowers and talents. In our family, what we would do is if we had a family gathering or an event, rather than hiring entertainment, the kids would train and put on a show in whatever genre they were interested in. We started with my son during a rite of passage in our community and we had a big lunch and he danced with a group of break dancers. My older daughter decided once my son set the bar and it became a family tradition. And when her turn came around same party with the family and friends she decided she was going to stay in and put on a concert.

Rita Suzanne: 20:05

And then the third one, when it came her time, she did a hip hop dance with two male backup dancers her time she did a hip hop dance with two male backup dancers and the reason why we family can encourage and support them and just cheer them on yeah, they had a wonderful receptive audience.

Marjie Hadad: 20:22

And if they were shy before, they were no longer shy and in all cases they were also invited to deliver a speech. They all got up in front of everybody and talked for 10 to 15 minutes and delivered their content, not reading a paper. They had planned what they wanted to say, their key messages, the stories, the points they wanted to make, and then they got up and they delivered it. Because I told them and I’ll tell the moms listening when you’re presenting, nobody knows if you make a mistake, except for you. So it really doesn’t matter what word choice you choose when you’re delivering your talk. What matters is that you deliver the key messages. What points do you want to make? What are your key messages? Do you want to share with the audience? And you can say the same messages in 10 different ways. So however it comes out, it’s perfectly fine, as long as you’re having fun, the people are listening and you’ve got their attention and it’s engaging.

Rita Suzanne: 21:31

I agree. I think that that’s a thing too now with social media and video and people feeling you know self-conscious about, about recording and doing the things, okay. So let’s talk about a little bit about navigating situations that are maybe uncomfortable and, like we talked prior to recording, about how you handle situations and a PR you know response. Let’s talk about that a little bit, because I want to talk about the book right and and reflect on the book, and so I feel like those are some of the stories that are in the book and how we handle, how we keep our cool in these tough situations, like we talked about the playground incident and you know things of that nature. So let’s kind of dive into some ways that moms and whether they’re being there, have their mom hat on or their business hat on. How can they keep their cool in situations that are maybe not so comfortable?

Marjie Hadad: 22:37

Great question One hat. Please throw all the other hats away and just stick with the one hat. Okay, yeah, I mean for for fashion and for style, you get to have hats. But that’s the only reason you have different hats? Just for fun and style. But in terms of bringing you to the table it’s one hat it’s the same person.

Marjie Hadad: 23:02

You might have a different word choice, but same basic principles. So now, in terms of crisis management, which is what you just described, you know something happens at work or something happens at home. Whenever you have a crisis in public relations, think of it this way there is a three-step process. First, assess the situation. What’s going on? Understand what you have in your hand. What’s going on? Understand what you have in your hand. Number two strategize. What can you do to fix the situation with the other moms and the kids? Have your team assist you in executing the strategy you just defined. This doesn’t take six years. This can be all of a 30-second quick thought in your mind. I’m just blocking it out for you. And then keep your cool. If somebody is freaking out, then assign them an occupation. If it’s a health situation, assign the one who’s freaking out to call the ambulance. They have something to do with their hands, with their mouth, with their body, instead of jumping around and screaming and making everybody else nervous. If it’s at the office, it’s the same difference. Right With the kids, have them be involved.

Marjie Hadad: 24:41

Before we started recording, we were talking about this kid who fell off of a swing and she gashed her head and the mother was not good with blood and she’s a very good friend of mine so I understood that rather than following her lead, she may need to follow mine on this one. So assessment is the kid okay, you know, uh, how deep is the cut? Uh, strategy, tell the mother, who’s kind of freaking out, to go call the ambulance. Uh, keep the child awake in case she has a concussion. Kids around us were nervous so I said, okay, everybody, let’s sing a song. So we were engaged in an activity make sure the kid stays awake. The song helped with that. And then make sure to keep the wound clean. So I asked someone to bring me a wipe to wipe it down, keep it clean, put pressure on it so it coagulates until the emergency responders arrive.

Marjie Hadad: 25:40

Again, assess, strategize, execute with whatever team you have in your company. So that is a PR strategy that we did at the office regularly, because there’s always crisis in PR. Every client’s got something exploding, right. So you need to keep your calm because otherwise the client will get upset, or maybe the client’s already upset and you have to calm them down, right. So at home, if the kids are going nuts on something, again, what’s the problem? Assess, how do we fix it? Get your strategy, your tactics going and then, if you can fix it yourself, great. If you can’t fix it, who can fix it? And get that?

Rita Suzanne: 26:29

call somebody in to fix it for you can’t fix it, who can fix it and get that? Get call somebody in to fix it for you. Yeah, and I love that, even in business, I love that it’s so it’s such a simple framework or strategy that they could use. I think that oftentimes we think that we need something super complex and something really broad in order to figure out how to do the thing. Broad in order to figure out how to do the thing. And often it’s such a simple strategy and and that and that’s all we need is something super simple, and then we just need to follow the steps and and it’ll be fine.

Marjie Hadad: 27:06

If the problem was that the electricity went out in the house, obviously the answer is we need to fix the electricity. I promise you I will not be the one to do it. I will go find somebody who knows something about electricity so it can be fixed without any further damage to the house or to any person in the house, including myself, if you know what I mean. So we all have our skill sets that we bring with us in addition to our public relations skills, but we always want to keep in mind our target market and in the case of moms at home, we’re talking about our partners and our kids and if you want to discuss something with them not necessarily when it’s good for you, but when it’s good for them what’s the most opportune time to talk with your child? When they’re going to be the most open to having a communication with you, to spilling, to sharing, to receiving feedback. If they’re willing to receive feedback, and depending on their age and their personality and their disposition, that can be at different times during the day, when it’s comfortable for you and also when it’s not comfortable for you and, just like at the office, you might be in the middle of something and if a colleague or a partner or a boss or something or a client comes and interrupts you, you don’t say no, I can’t help you. You stop what you’re doing and you say how can I help? You say no, I can’t help you. You stop what you’re doing and you say how can I help you? And it’s annoying? Yes, because you’re in the middle of something, let’s all agree on that. But you do it anyway because it’s the right thing to do Same thing at home If your child comes home from school and you’re in the middle of something because you’re working from home. And I know, I’ve been working from home for 24 years, so I’ve done the office thing with the kids when they were little. I’ve done the home thing for the last 24 years, which was great. And then came COVID and my sanctuary of home work was completely disrupted because now everybody was home.

Marjie Hadad: 29:11

But we’re women and women can multitask. So one moment you’re doing your job, the next moment you’re helping your kid, the next moment you go, oh gosh, I need to make sure that the towels are washed and dry, you know. So there’s all that stuff. So I always keep in mind the target market, because sometimes my kids would spill in the car. Sometimes I would be fried from the day. And I’m finishing up, had my shower, I had my me time, ready to go to sleep, and then I see that there’s a light on in one of my kids room and I understand that they’re up. So I go in, I sit down, anything going on, and guess what, this is their time. That they want to spill two o’clock in the morning. But okay, they’re ready. So I was ready to go to sleep. Guess not. And you know what? I’m so glad I didn’t because I learned so much.

Rita Suzanne: 30:09

Yeah, my son, without fail, almost every night comes into my room. I’m in bed and he comes into my room and he paces and he walks back and forth and he like gives me a rundown of his entire day Every day. Yeah, and you know, sometimes I’m just like I’m so tired, but you know, obviously I don’t want to discourage him from talking to me and being in there with me, so I never. You know, obviously I don’t say anything, but you know, I appreciate that he does want to come in, and especially cause he’s 15. So, like, getting a boy to even speak to you at 15 is a miracle.

Marjie Hadad: 30:52

Sounds like you have a wonderful relationship and all the respect to you making yourself available when he’s ready.

Rita Suzanne: 30:59

Yeah, yeah, it’s. You know it’s a lot. I have four teenagers, so I am available whenever they they need me. Basically, you know what are their ages 13, 14, 15 and 16. Um 13, 14, 15 and 16. So, holy, holy moly, yeah, I had, you know, my two sons. Um, my sons are 13 and 15.

Rita Suzanne: 31:24

And then in 2020, my sister passed and I have her daughters who are 14 and 16, and um, I kind of isolated myself after that happened. And then, um you, because I found out that right prior to that that my husband was cheating. So and then COVID kicked in and now I’m like a single mom of four kids and it was just a whole thing. And then, in January of 2021 is when I started the podcast, because I felt the need to really reconnect with other mom business owners, because I didn’t know how they were able to manage all of the things, because I was struggling so hard in managing not just my business and taking care of my family, the family part. I was good, it was the business and me I was struggling taking care of me. And so one question that I always ask, marjorie, is what are you doing for yourself? So I love to kind of pivot and talk a little bit about self-care at the end of our podcast.

Marjie Hadad: 32:33

I like to walk. I like to walk. We have a dog, so that’s always a good excuse. Oh, I have to take the dog out for a walk and then that gives me a really great opportunity to clear my head, move my body around, breathe some fresh air. I always wear my hat. Got to protect your skin, ladies, trust me. I was diagnosed with a little bit of skin cancer last December, which was removed, and it was caused by. I don’t know if any y’all have ever done this, but when I was a teenager, I would take baby oil all over my body and hang out in the sun with the reflector like an idiot my mom would do that when I was yeah.

Marjie Hadad: 33:16

Yeah, yeah. Well, that was like the cool thing to do in the late seventies, early eighties, and decades later it came back to haunt me. So, hat and sunscreen, let this be a lesson to everybody Don’t don’t go through the same stuff that we had to. So, and the other thing that I’ve started to do is go with a trainer. You know you can find somebody who doesn’t break the bank and who can just help you and make sure you do your exercises. Yeah, you know the kind of thing that you wouldn’t do on your own. But if somebody is looking at you and saying you must, must do these squats, then you’re going to do them because you’re there for that purpose, right, just to be healthier.

Marjie Hadad: 34:01

The other thing that I do yeah, so that’s the exercise, part of it. I like my coffee time in the morning. I like my uh, my guilty pleasure. All right, I’ll admit it, I like silly TV. I just finished binging Bridgerton with my daughter. This is Us.

Marjie Hadad: 34:28

I love it. All sorts of dramas and things that are fun, but don’t take too much energy to concentrate on. After a full day of writing, editing, speaking, all the rest of it, I don’t really want to think too hard, right? So I do. I like my television and, um, I mean, I get in maybe a half an hour and then I fall asleep, but I kind of like to do that and I like to read when I’m interestingly enough, I like to read when I’m in a waiting room because I can tune out all the noise in the waiting room and like, really like focus in on my book. Yeah, so that’s another guilty pleasure. That’s when I get my my fun reading in. You know, in public relations we do a lot of reading and writing with our clients In PR for life. I’m teaching people how to do these kind of things, so I’m constantly reading. But if I have an opportunity to read something that interests me, then usually that’s in the waiting room, because at night my eyes are too burnt out.

Rita Suzanne: 35:39

Yeah, I could see that. And since we’re talking about books, you had mentioned that your book is now on available in audio version, which I said is my preferred method because I love so I go to the gym six days a week and because my best friend is there keeps me accountable and you know, and that’s the thing that kind of got me back in to taking care of better care of myself, but it’s a little bit of a drive, and so one thing that I do is I’ll listen to audible books on my way there, because I love to. It’s really the only time that I have to listen to books and stuff. So tell everyone where they can get your book, how they can get in touch with you, when are you at on social media Again, all of the things.

Marjie Hadad: 36:33

First of all, thank you for that invitation and I have adored talking with you. I think you’re amazing. You were such a strong woman and I’m looking I’m looking at your face right now and you were just brilliantly glowing and full of confidence and all that stuff that you described earlier. All the respect to you for overcoming and what an angel you are and I’m so sorry about the loss of your sister and the inner strength that you have is so commendable and I’m in awe of you.

Rita Suzanne: 37:13

Thank you.

Marjie Hadad: 37:14

So let me just say that the book is called the Power of PR Parenting how to Raise Confident, Resilient and Successful Children Using Public Relations Strategies. It’s written conversationally, so if you actually read it, it’s going to be like you hear me talking to you. Read it. It’s going to be like you hear me talking to you. If you get the audio book, then you’re going to hear exactly how I heard it in my head when I wrote it, and I wrote it literally in my living room with my laptop, with a cup of coffee, pretending that you were with me and I was just telling you some stories my professional stories, my personal stories and how you can do the same with your own PR superpowers and special, unique skills. Bring your superpowers home, ladies. The book is available on Amazon, on Barnes and Noble, anywhere where books are sold. The audio book is available wherever audio books are sold. It’s really easy to find. You can even just Google my name, which is Margie Haddad, and Margie’s spelled with a J, by the way, for anybody listening and my website is prforlife, and if you go over there, you’re going to find some cool information and tips. I have a blog so you can read some additional information that’s not in the book because I share with you things that I’m going through now or that I’ve gone through before that didn’t make it into the book Because you know the book’s 222 pages. I think I wrote twice as much but only half of it made it in. I have 40 years of stories but you had a lot of stuff hit the editing floor and in addition, there’s a newsletter. If that’s of interest, you can find where to contact me for that on the website. If you want to ask me a question, there’s a contact form on the website. You can also reach out to me on Instagram and I usually reposting three times a week different tips, some advice, fun things always something that’s going to help. Right now we’ve got this is actually kind of fun. Always something that’s going to help. Right now we’ve got this is actually kind of fun.

Marjie Hadad: 39:38

My kids and I, when we went to record the audiobook together, they wrote the forward. I had nothing to do with it publisher’s idea. They all said stay the heck out of it, Margie. I didn’t see it till they were done and it had gone to the publisher. So they joined me in the studio and it was so much fun and they were fantastic, and there was a part in the introduction that I was reading that was talking about one of my kids and I had never thought that I would be recording that with them in the room and I just started to laugh out loud.

Marjie Hadad: 40:11

I got totally cracked up and then everybody else started cracking up. You won’t hear that in the book, but you are going to hear when I read this about my kid. You’re going to hear the laughter in my voice, which they kept, but right after you hear like the laughter in my voice, just full disclosure. We all started cracking up in the studio. It was such a fun, wonderful experience. So you can reach out to me on Instagram, on Facebook, on LinkedIn. I’m on all the social platforms. There’s also a YouTube channel and the point about the recording studio is right now we’re letting people know that the audio book does exist, If that’s your preference, like it is yours, and you’ll see little videos of me and the kids in the studio it is yours and you’ll see little videos of me and the kids in the studio.

Rita Suzanne: 41:01

How sweet, how sweet.

Marjie Hadad: 41:03

Thank you so much. It’s been such a pleasure and I’ve really enjoyed our time together. Ditto, thank you so much for the opportunity. I’m wishing you all the very, very best, and everyone out there who’s listening. You can do it. You’re a PR superpower, superwoman. Go for it.

Rita Suzanne: 41:39

And there you have it. I want to encourage you to remember that being a mom who runs her own business is not easy. We all struggle, but just keep moving forward. And don’t forget to make time for yourself. As moms we are usually the first thing to go to the bottom of the list. If your business is overwhelming you and you need real solutions, not just some sugar coated suggestions apply to work with me at ritasuzanne.com/apply